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October 19, 2009

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The Sanity Inspector

Ha! Was that the bar girl who decked him?

Ross

I'd have said there's something about heavy drinking that turns them into assholes rather than being abroad. As two videos which have gone viral recently, of yobs taking on more than than they bargained for in Swansea and Merseyside demonstrate:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/872983/hapless-thugs-pick-wrong-fight

twitter.com/a10sigh

I thought only we Americans were the "Ugly Americans" went we went abroad. This can't be right.

Maybe "ugly American" should be changed to "ugly westerner"?

Account Deleted

Way to make a sweeping generalisation. Top class work, really.

Do you even know the difference between England and the UK? They do seem to be used interchangeably by a lot of, well seeing as we are making generalisations, Americans.

"Not all the people of the world are like the conflict-avoidant Japanese, who tend to give far too much leeway to Western morons with no respect for others."

And not all the drunken English arseholes you see on the internet represent the UK, or England, or whichever way you would like to group everyone together.

Abiola

"Way to make a sweeping generalisation. Top class work, really."

Thanks for the plaudits, though I'm not sure where exactly this "sweeping generalisation" you refer to is to be found ...

"Do you even know the difference between England and the UK?"

There is a difference? I did not know that! Thank you for the lesson, dear sir!

On a serious note, you really need a few lessons in reading comprehension if you think I've made any sort of confusion between the two on here; all Englishmen are by definition Britons, so the only one suffering from any confusion on here is YOU.

"And not all the drunken English arseholes you see on the internet represent the UK, or England, or whichever way you would like to group everyone together."

Are you really so thick that you don't recognize the difference between "many a Briton" and "all Britons", or do you need to have explicit disclaimers attached to the bottom of everything you read, like RIAA copyright notices?
I suggest you take a remedial reading course or two and then come back here to hold a conversation about what I actually wrote, rather than whatever confused claptrap you have rattling around in your head ...

Meanwhile, in the real world in which I dwell, British chavs and louts - and yes, that means morons from Scotland, Wales AND England - continue to make unwelcome asses of themselves throughout the Costa del Sol, Greece, Goa, Dubai, Thailand and a great many other places through acts of drunken debauchery. A few have even managed to disgrace themselves in a Japanese fish market, of all places!

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/12/15/idiotic-british-tour.html

Oh, and here's another beauty of an incident, this time in Singapore:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-490946/Brits-Singapore-mock-aged-rickshaw-driver-spark-anger-YouTube-clip.html

At least the jerks in this particular case had the decency to apologize (albeit under duress).

If you don't like the impression all these idiots are spreading throughout the world, there are more effective measures available than wasting your time and mine pinpointing non-existent "sweeping" generalisations and imaginary confusions from which you think I suffer.

Chuckles

[...Maybe "ugly American" should be changed to "ugly westerner"?...]

Not at all. The Ugly American, IIRC, has a direct reference to American Imperialism.

1. Being abroad does seem to turn all sorts of people into monsters - except the Japanese. No, seriously.

2. However, I want to point out the double standard here: People from the 3rd World who have the means and resources to travel would not get off as lightly as these idiots Abiola has pointed out if they misbehaved. In my own personal experience, I know Nigerians and Ghanaians who have faced heavy punitive measures for far less cringe worthy behavior from locals than these morons who have nothing but their white skin to boast off - Its the ridiculous racism of it that annoys me. Scores of jails in several areas of the world are filled with West Africans who committed basically *no* crime apart from being young and boisterous - while creeps like these go free.

Account Deleted

I may have been a tad incensed upon first reading this post, what with the Brit bashing and all, and your choice of vocabulary didn't really help when composing my response, which may have come across as a touch hostile.

Upon reflection I wholeheartedly agree that the 'stars' of these viral nasties are indeed idiots but "a great many British people seem to go out of their way to annoy the locals" is hardly fair. I think "a lot, which in actual fact accounts for a small minority of British travellers" or something similar, might have been more appropriate and accurate.

Visas to a great many countries are cheaper and easier for Brits to acquire than citizens of some other nations, Americans for example, reflecting the attitudes of the countries in question. We have a problematic underclass in the UK, some of which manage to get to other countries and cause trouble but surely no more than these kinds of people from other Western countries.

For the record I laughed heartily at this video, and the other videos mentioned and welcome locals anywhere in the world to smack these morons.

I do however think that from the ferocity of your response you may have some issues with anger, which is interesting considering the topic matter.

Anyway I don't want this to continue into some angry feud where we both say things we will regret in the morning.

Congratulations on a good looking site and I promise not to darken your door ever again.

A peace loving Welshman

Abiola

"I do however think that from the ferocity of your response you may have some issues with anger, which is interesting considering the topic matter."

If by "issues" you mean I don't like people accusing me of things I haven't done, then yes, I do have "issues", but not of a sort in any need of fixing.

"We have a problematic underclass in the UK, some of which manage to get to other countries and cause trouble but surely no more than these kinds of people from other Western countries."

I wish this were true, but my experience - having spent substantial time living in Africa, Asia and North America, and having visited nearly every country in Western Europe - is that Britain stands head and shoulders above (or rather, below) the rest of the "developed" world in terms of the propensity to combine binge drinking with violent and obnoxious behavior.

Southern Europeans generallly don't get drunk in public, are ashamed when they do get drunk, and don't go looking for fights on the rare occasions on such occasions. Scandinavians are also binge drinkers, but it doesn't tend to turn them into aggressive idiots. In contrast, I have lost count by now of the number of times I've run into drunk British chavs roaming around in packs and spoiling for a fight, and on far too many nights I've been kept awake into the early hours by drunk idiots screaming abuse at each other - and this despite living in what is considered a "posh" neighborhood ...

Leaving aside my anecdotes, the statistical evidence I've seen is pretty clear: Britain has a particularly bad problem with alcohol, most British adults drink far too much, and this lack of restraint combined with unwarranted feelings of superiority leads very, very often to trouble overseas.

Abiola

As an afterthought, let me note here that I find it amusing that someone whose supposed goal is to protest the picture of the "Obnoxious Brit" should choose to do so with language almost calculated to provoke offence, and this after promising "promise not to darken [my] door ever again" ... If you're wondering why your most recent comments aren't being published, Rob, you have your answer.

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