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January 22, 2005

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"Gee, do you think the fact that El B.'s instigation of a purse-snatching just might have had something to do with the unfortunate manner in which he met his end? What's all this nonsense about "serious injustice" then?"
I would have thought that the death penalty is a penalty which doesn't fit the crime, there is in injustice in that. Merely because someone commits a crime doesn't mean the victim can give up any due care responsibilities that they have.

"One would think Moroccan criminals were owed special consideration in light of their ethnicity or something, listening to these complaints."
Well they do, because they are an ethnic minority so they will suffer disproportionally from any prejudice that exists in a society, which the majorities will not.
The problem with predjudice is that it is not always declared. Geert Wilders would most likely respond to this crime differently if the roles were reversed, but I'm sure he would deny that predjudice is his motivator.

Abiola Lapite

"I would have thought that the death penalty is a penalty which doesn't fit the crime, there is in injustice in that."

I don't see that there's anything ethnically unfair about this particular "injustice", as it isn't as if she's had her purse snatched by multiple people and only decided to ram down the Moroccan thief.

Besides, I firmly believe that a person should have the right to use all force necessary to secure his life and property from thieves, and if that means the occasional crook ends up dead, I don't see anything wrong with it; that'll teach the criminally minded to think twice before acting on their desires. We aren't talking about state-inflicted punishment here, so notions of proportionality of crime and punishment aren't at all fitting; if some punk who went into a record store to steal records got fatally shot in the back as he was running out, I wouldn't call it "murder" either.

Abiola Lapite

"Well they do, because they are an ethnic minority so they will suffer disproportionally from any prejudice that exists in a society, which the majorities will not."

That is all the more reason for them to go out of their way to keep their noses out of crime, as the blunt reality is that a prejudiced majority will *not* cut them slack on crime if they choose to participate in it, whatever they might wish to the contrary.

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