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April 24, 2007

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dilettante

Wow--- oddly enough I was just thinking to myself the other day that I NEVER see any people of color - well any women of non -"yellow" color,in any of the the photo's you post. Then I thought,- what is it to me? You seem quite libertarian in your view point, it's your blog, your pictures , your preference. So I'm not sure how to take your stance on this one. The parents didn't object to blacks being in class with their children -which at the end of the day, is what the civil rights movement was about. My forebearers campaigned for equal opportunity/access for education/housing /jobs/treatment under the law. The movement was *not* about the opportunity to go to prom in a 'mixed' crowd. I know I'm going to get "corrected" by you in a big way.. but you don't seem to really see anything photogenic or attractive in 'Afro' London, so why come down so hard on racist crackers in the States for having similar ideas /standards give or take an eyelid, of who they want to hang out with?

Abiola

"Wow--- oddly enough I was just thinking to myself the other day that I NEVER see any people of color - well any women of non -"yellow" color,in any of the the photo's you post."

Yeah, it must be because I hate non-"yellow" (and non-"white") women or something ... What a stupid (and yet highly revealing) comment on your part: apart from it being a complete non-sequitur - who I take pictures of has absolutely nothing to do with segregated proms in the United States - it never crosses your mind that there aren't many black people where I happen to get to take pictures? What, now I'm a racist because my pictures happen to be representative of the people I see on a daily basis? Maybe I should start busing more black women into Kensington and Chelsea to meet your quota or something? What an awful bigot I must be for my pictures to reflect the part of London in which I live! Heck, the sheer fact that I should be living outside of a black enclave practically proves that I'm standing right behind Dave Chappelle in the membership queue for black wannabe Klansmen ...

You're a moron, and the icing on the cake is that what you say isn't even true, as anyone who has bothered to look at my pictures without an agenda can verify ...

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"The parents didn't object to blacks being in class with their children -which at the end of the day, is what the civil rights movement was about."

What a lot of retarded rubbish. They CAN'T stop blacks from being in class with their children because *Federal laws* prevent them from doing so - you know, those laws the likes of Martin Luther King and other colored troublemakers lost their lives agitating for. Pelion heaped on Ossa - your ignorance of history piled unto your inability to reason would make for a mountain to dwarf Mt. Everest.

"I know I'm going to get "corrected" by you in a big way.."

So you KNOW you're an idiot, and yet you refuse to keep your mouth shut.

"but you don't seem to really see anything photogenic or attractive in 'Afro' London, so why come down so hard on racist crackers in the States for having similar ideas /standards give or take an eyelid, of who they want to hang out with?"

Ah, yes, a guy who happens to live in an overwhelmingly non-black area takes photos of the mostly non-black people around him, and he's therefore the equivalent of white Southern segregationists who go in for just the sort of racial ghettoization he FAILS to practice: in the same vein of braindead arguments, any foreign Tokyo resident whose pictures are dominated by Japanese faces must be an uyoku gaijin-hater ... Racist idiots like you make my head hurt with your stupid efforts at painting your prejudices as equivalent to the thoughts and actions of those whose outlook is the polar opposite of yours.

Won Joon Choe

Abiola,

This reminds me of several exchanges I've seen at Michael Hurt's ex-pat Blog on Korea. The nub of the matter is that Mr. Hurt, like you, ironically had to fend off several accusations that he was an intolerant, anti-multiculturalist (and presumably white) Western man pontificating from a parochial perch. And as some of Mr. Hurt readers suggested to him, perhaps you should have a "Who I am" section highlighting that you are not actually not a Caucasian male from the Deep South.

Abiola

Won Joon,

I get what you're saying, but I've never been comfortable about putting my skin color at the forefront of how I identify myself to the world, as I think it only makes things easier for those intent on consigning one's ideas to a mental ghetto. The last thing I want is to resemble any of those sites with titles like "The Black This, That and the Other", and in any case I ought to be able to expect to have my arguments taken seriously without having to "prove" that I'm "qualified" by virtue of skin color or ethnic background. Michael Hurt should be able to analyze Korean society without having any Korean ancestry, and I should be able to criticize Southern racism without having to prove that I'm not a white crypto-segregationist myself.

d2008

Being from the North, stories like this never cease to amaze me, but with time I've learned to no longer be surprised by them. Apparently, teachers from this very school district actually threatened students with suspensions, and/or other in-school punishments for saying the name Barack Obama, discussing the election, or for that matter having political discussions within the classroom (I found your piece by googling Ashburn, after I found this out).

And this was IN A SCHOOL? Well, that would be 20th Century thinking, but not 21st. I grew up in a small town, and I understand the romanticized and potentially realized notion of a small community, but until ignorance, fear and racism are defeated, such places will forever be at war with their own small-mindedness.

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